
Playing Now: 1971 interview

By Mike
Quigley, Tracey Lee Hearst & Rick McGrath
Rick: What do
you think of all this (flack cocktail party routine).... doing this kind of
stuff?
Elton: I'm
used to it, believe me, I'm used to it. First time I came over to
Rick: How
much are we going to overlap here? What did you go through before?
Elton: We
went through a variety of things. Television programs. How Bernie and I got
together, which is a stock question on all these meetings.
Mike: So we
won't ask you...
Elton: We
just went through a lot of things. It was quite thorough. It was quite good
actually. I just said I wish somebody would attack me, as I thought you might
be a good person to attack me.
Mike: Oh
really? Why?
Elton:
Well, as I was saying... ever
Mike: OK,
on your latest album, which I reviewed this week...
Elton: Friends...
it's not my latest album. It's a film soundtrack album which we contracted to
do before

Mike: (laughs)
Do you think it represents you, though?
Elton:
Yes... no, it represents what we had to write for the film. The whole story
behind the film was they contracted us to do three songs. There's two bits in
the film where they have a tape recorder sequence for 20 seconds or whatever it
was, where ever
Mike:
Especially since the
Elton:
Yeah, which is pissing me off somewhat. That's 'cause the guy in
Mike:
Somebody said you wanted that to be coupled with Empty Sky.

Elton:
Yeah, I did. I've had these hassles the past week. We've got two things that
have been released in England - the live album and the Empty Sky, which hasn't
come out here yet anywhere, and I wanted Empty Sky and the live album to come
out for $5.98, both albums... the fact really is, that all my albums have gone
up to $5.98, which I found out. So I wanted the live album to be a free
album... you know, "Thank you very much,
Mike: It
hasn't come out here yet.
Elton: Noo...that's right, I went to a record shop today and I
couldn't believe it. I said to the woman, "Have you got Brown Sugar by The
Rolling Stones? And she said yes, and then she said no, we've ordered some and
they're coming in next week and she had only ordered ten of it. (laughs)
Mike: One
of the things that bothered me, that I sort of hinted at in my review, was that
I have a lot of respect for you as an artist, but there's also this thing about
mystique...I mean, Rick and I were one of the first people in this area to hear
your album because we got it from MCA in the States, before it was released
here, and now there's a lot of, what you call hype, behind you. And what do you
think of all this?
Elton: I
know there's a lot of hype. I'm over in
Rick:
Yeah...I'm just listening...trying to keep up with you. And asking you a
question.
Elton: I'm
glad we've had this opportunity to talk about this. (To Mike) I read your
article last night, and I was very impressed by it. No, I really liked it...
there was a review of Friends in Rock Magazine which took about twelve lines
and really slated (sic) it, and it amused me... not amused me, but I'd quite
like to meet the person who wrote that review and talk to him, because I get so
bored with people saying, "Oh here we are Wonder-Dog of 1973." The
whole magazine (Georgia Straight) was quite interesting... I read a lot of that
sort of thing. "Mikey Muzak"
quite amused me.
Mike:
(laughs) That was a step down...it used to be Mikey
Music...
Elton: I
actually heard Your Song on Muzak the other day and
it freaked me out. I thought to myself, you have arrived. But wait till The
Supremes album gets to the shops. And Rolling Stone reviews that with my
(unintelligible) but I really do like The Supremes and no one believes me.
Mike: I
like Henry Mancini and nobody believes me...
Elton: You
like Henry Mancini? I was on the Henry Mancini Show in
Tracey Lee:
It's like Andy Williams...
Elton: Oh,
Andy Williams is a joke. We were hanging around
Tracey Lee:
Didn't they show the one where you sang...
Elton: In
Tracey Lee:
You were lucky you weren't there the night Ike and Tina were on and Andy
Williams sung with her (laughs)
Elton: Oh,
I've got a lot of respect for Andy...for a start, he was very nice to me...but
he was really trying to think of all these...he was really more aware of things
than I thought he was. He was reading off all these albums that he wanted to
choose things off to sing, and the guy could still be singing...
Tracey Lee:
Elton: On
The Street Where You Live...and he does set himself up, which I like.
Mike: I
think he produced the latest Everly Brothers album...
Elton: No.
On the Barnaby label? No, those things are on the Warners
label...
Mike: I'm
sure he had something to do with that.
Elton: No,
I mean, like, you could be a Tony Bennett... I've got no respect for people
like Tony Bennett because they're just bores. Andy Williams has got a very
pleasant voice. He sends himself up.
Tracey Lee:
I don't really like him..
Elton: No,
I wouldn't watch his show by choice, but the guy's aware, at least he's aware
of what's going on. He's into modern music. He has a lot of quite good guests
on his show..Ike and Tina Turner, Smokey...and me.
(laughs) And that's my last and first time on the Andy Williams Show.
Mike: And
how do you like
Elton: I dunno. It was pissing with rain all day. The first thing I
noticed was that the air was fresh. It really was. It was cold, but it's not
like
Mike: Well,
Elton: I
have a live one with Mae West coming out in four years time...if we can both
get on the same microphone...she's put on a little weight. (laughs) There's a
new album coming out, I hope...there's going to be this bloody live album...get
that out of the way...and then there won't be anything from me for about six
months. By that time we should have two albums ready. I still don't want there
to be anything after the live album for a long time because I think people are
going to criticize the live album coming out, and they are going to cut me up,
and they are going to say its being rammed down their throats, and I'm getting
fed up with it.
Mike: Is it
being rammed down their throats as much in
Elton: It
was...well, no...cause there's only one radio station. So you don't get it
rammed down your throat so much, right? No, the English people sort of reacted
to me after I was a success in
Mike: Agrodome...we did a fake commercial for the Agrodome once...it was something like: "Get together
with the cows"...you know, it's a cow palace..
Elton:
Yeah, they've got the plastic cows on it. Yeah, we've got a lighting man,
because I think lighting is very important, and he said he just couldn't
believe it...he went in there today and saw these eight-foot papier maché cows hanging from
the ceiling, which I thought was very nice...that appeals to me very much.
Tracey Lee:
Well, it's the place where they hold all the horse shows...
Elton:
Yeah, cow palace...so we'll be playing with piles of horse manure
Tracey Lee:
I went and saw Liberace there and they didn't even cover the floor and all
these dolls in their spikey heel shoes were sinking
three inches into the mud floors...
Elton: I
like Liberace very much. He appeals to me.
Tracey Lee:
It was one of the best concerts I ever attended...
Elton: He's
just so outrageous. He's like a middle-aged Mick Jagger.
It freaks me out. Well, what else? You must have some more questions.
Rick:
Speaking about the music, you know ... with the last three albums (Quigley and
I actually do have copies of Empty Sky), we've noticed that the piano work and
the melody line and the rhythms are starting to repeat themselves, and we were
wondering if it's just because you happen to do these albums in a relatively
short time.
Elton: This
is always amusing... "the melody line"... Such as what? I mean, this
guy in Rock Magazine said Honey Roll sounds like Burn Down the Mission, which I
thought was vaguely amusing - the guy should be put into an institution.
Rick: Well,
you've got to admit that it's starting to. . . like, it might be because you've
just got a heavily stylized way of playing and you pick it up really easily,
therefore whenever you keep playing these things, the style comes out...it's
very predominant. Your songs really remind me of each other.
Elton:
Well, which ones?
Rick: Well,
I don't know which ones offhand. That's what I mean about the style thing.
Mike:
That's what I was sort of saying in my review...like, some of the songs in
there reminded me of earlier things...and I wondered if you were going to
branch out into something else like, you know, cut out the piano have some sort
of orchestra or what...
Elton: No,
well, you see none of these need an orchestra. They need a piano...like, we
could have had piano on Love Song...(unintelligible) but some need piano more
than others...
Rick: I was
just wondering, the fact that it all did happen in a relatively short space of
time. . .like if you were composing things all the time, instead of having
earlier things already written, it would tend to. .
Elton:
Well, all the new songs we've done are going to be on the next album.
Mike: Like
the dum-de-dum-de-dum (beginning of Your Song) riff
happens a lot.
Elton:
Well, I like that. But if you listen to a lot of Leon Russell's stuff, who's my
idol, and I won't have a word said against him, a lot of his piano playing
sounds similar. It's just a style you get into. I hope I can branch out...
that's got me worried...
Mike:
You're going to start playing (unintelligible) riffs next
Elton: It's
just a style you get into... I copied Leon Russell, and that was it. I did. I
heard the Delaney and Bonnie album on Elektra and I just went through the roof.
I nearly retired at that point. I figured there wasn't much point in playing
anymore. And the first time I ever met him, he was in the front row of the
Troubadour in
Mike: We'll
cut that out.
Elton: Cut
the french out, yeah... this is the western part of
Canada...and I was petrified meeting him... but aww...
he's so sweet...he's really great. A lot of people got the wrong idea...
interviewers think he's a big, moody so-and-so because he doesn't say anything,
but that's
Mike: (FM
announcer's voice) Tell me,
Elton:
Tchaikovsky and Sibelius
Mike: Are
you being esoteric?
Elton: No,
I really like Tchaikovsky... I'm very romantic as a rule... I like Tchaikovsky
and (unintelligble) I'm not really into Mozart.. He's
too twiddley... I like Bach... the only Bach I really
like are his organ pieces.. you know..ta-dah!... if I
really play, I like Tchaikovsky... and the only reason I said Tchaikovsky is
because I've seen a film called The Music Lover which is about his life.. has
it come here?
Mike: It's
been here
Elton: It's
the most amazing film I've ever seen... I've seen it about 8,000 times. The
music is core. It's a drag that he's so popular because the music's really
good. I mean, ever
Mike: They
played that here last night.
Elton: The
1812? Beautiful! Unbelievable. The guy was a genius. I like Stravinsky as well.
I like lyrical composers and I think Sibelius and
Stravinsky are really good. And I like Terry Riley, (unintelligible) John Cale...he's only ever had one album...(unintelligible)...I
like
Mike: How
do you spell that?
Elton: S-u-bb-al-a-k-s-h-m-i. If you can get any of her albums -- there's
about four -- she's amazing! You wouldn't believe it. You wouldn't think such
things were possible with the human voice. And Dionne Warwick's good. There you
go.
Mike: OK...
I think we had better wrap this up very shortly...do you have any final
questions, Tricky Rick?
Rick: No...
Elton:
Tricky Rick?... you sound like a Top 40 DJ...
Mike: It
is... we've got a thing called Radio H-Y-P-E
Rick: It's
a mythical radio station and we're the two disc jockeys... AM and FM
Elton:
(speaks fast) Tricky Rick..Tricky Rick...
Mike: The
FM disc jockey talk like...(lowers voice, speaks very slowly) hmmm,
well...hmmm... stoned...
Elton: Yes,
you're perfectly right... FM disc jockeys always speak like... (slows
down)..."and now we have some Carole King..." (speeds up) "and
that was Stevie Wonder...we can work it out...on the
Boss Top 40...yeah, groovy"...
(we all do
various voices)
Elton: And
the FM ones always try to sound stoned... and you go and visit the radio
stations and they're all 88 years old people with beards!
(all laugh)
Elton: It's
all a laugh, isn't it? That's what it is .. a laugh... It's the best thing in
the world. It's the greatest high in the whole world to just sit down and kill
yourself laughing... God's natural high... apart from other things.
This is the
original 1971
We enter
the Holiday Inn on
Other radio
people, promoters, photographers, newsmen, and assorted sycophants surf in and
circulate. I meet one reporter, a friend I haven't seen since high school five
years ago. I also run into deposed CKLG-FM jock Bob Ness, who remarks on the
unfairness of my Laura Nyro review to the folksinger
on the programme with her. A pant-suited woman from
CHQM looks at me and says, "I don't believe I've met this gentleman".
I look to a flack beside her. He's forgotten my name, so l introduce myself,
which is the total extent of our conversation for the evening.
Province
reviewer Jeani Read, attired in buckskin hot pants
and a matching midicoat, quickly nabs the Star and
drags him off to a corner for a private interview. This gets the MCA-Uni flacks uptight. They want him to circulate among the
forty or so people in the room, and then Meet The Press in a group session.
They glide through the crowd, whispering, "Cool it, cool it."
I approach EJ's clean-shaven Agent Man when he's alone for a second.
He's an older guy - in his forties, I'd say. He's outfitted in brown shoes,
beige pants, a brown shirt with white stitching, a blue blazer with a silk
handkerchief in the pocket, and a large ruby ring on his left little finger.
After some introductory trivia, I ask him if it's possible for me to get in to
see the show the following night.
He doesn't
seem very interested. He tells me he's got no control over comps. He tells me
to go and see the MCA-Uni flacks. Strange thing is
they were the ones who referred me to HIM on this matter. They've had to lay
out sixty-six odd bucks for tickets to see their own artist.
By then
it's interview time, and the TV men with their blaringly bright lights get
first crack. A reporter I know asks, "Is this going to be a
disaster?" referring to the general disorganization.
Then another
group of radio, newspaper, and rock magazine reporters sit down and rap with
the Star. By this time I don't feel much like doing an interview, though the
flacks keep asking me if McGrath and I would. So we sit down and wait and wait.
Roy
Hennessey, uniformed in a flame-colored Harry Belafonte shirt and black pants,
strolls over to where we're sitting. He says hello to me. He ignores McGrath.
McGrath turns to me and J.B. Shayne and says, "Do you think we should tell
him that Hallowe'en isn't till October?"
Hennessey walks away.
Finally,
it's our turn to talk. A flack says, "We'll cut in now because these guys
have been going on too long." The Agent Man now addresses me by my first
name, motioning me to come over into the other part of the divided room. I grab
my tape recorder and McGrath, Tracey Hearst and I sit down and talk for a good
thirty minutes.
It's not a
very good interview, though.
We finish,
and then the TV men say they want to shoot another short sequence.
There's not
much of an audience at this point. It's almost three hours since we arrived.
When the song is over, and we're on our way, the Agent Man wanders through the
dispersing crowd. He says, smiling for the second time this evening (the first
being when he called us over to do the interview), "The song really fits -
"The Greatest Discovery."